Grim Dawn

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Game for
Grim Dawn
Title
Developer
Publisher
RPG, Action, Adventure, Indie
Genres
Remote Play on Tablet LAN Co-op Family Sharing Remote Play on TV
Categories
Released February 25, 2016
Release
USD 24.99
Price
92.34
Game Rating
83
Metacritic Score
8
Steam Review Score
-12
Par
173
Threshold
348h 2m
Completion
1h 52m
Average
2020-10-15 17:32:57
Last Played
2020-10-15 17:32:46
Last Unlock & Completed
2019-11-26 20:18:50
First Unlock
2019-03-15 01:26:36
Started Playing
1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours 6 minutes
Time Taken
14,150
Owners Including hidden & invalid profiles
12,004
… Players
451
… Expired
8,341
… in Progress
290
… Completed
353h 12m
Completion Playtime Avg.
210h 41m
Completion Playtime Median
62h 18m
Playtime Average
12h 51m
Playtime Median
19.46%
Completion Average
10.27%
Completion Median
Players
Player Completion Achievements Completion Time Playtime Last Unlock
Mixers 68.11% 126 / 185 90h 26m 2024-05-04 19:44:32
๋⁧⁧<zeexh/> 66.49% 123 / 185 152h 41m 2024-05-04 13:38:17
Tas Kots 34.59% 64 / 185 389h 1m 2024-05-03 22:16:35
Raustia 69.73% 129 / 185 546h 40m 2024-05-02 13:48:47
Mephisto 12.97% 24 / 185 86h 22m 2024-04-28 12:12:27
Ainion 46.49% 86 / 185 226h 4m 2024-04-26 22:16:31
Ziopliukas 91.35% 169 / 185 143h 14m 2024-04-26 11:17:05
The Biggest Bastard 89.73% 166 / 185 167h 40m 2024-04-21 21:15:14
Nund 39.46% 73 / 185 510h 44m 2024-04-21 00:39:00
Aswer 55.68% 103 / 185 86h 28m 2024-04-16 20:22:23
Achievement Unlocked Visibility Global Unlocks
Immortal Shattered Vanquisher
Conquer the 25th Shard of the Shattered Realm on Ultimate Difficulty in Hardcore Mode.
2020-10-15 17:32:46 0.5%
Like Sand in a Desert
Rid Cairn of 250000 Monsters.
2020-10-07 11:45:44 1.0%
Squelching the Scion
Summon and defeat Callagadra, Scion of the Sands.
2020-09-17 13:59:41
1.6%
A Done Deal
Gain the effects of all five of the Shattered Realm's shrines.
2020-09-17 11:50:44 0.7%
Immortal Light in the Dark
Slay Grand Magus Morgoneth in the Tomb of the Heretic on Hardcore Mode.
2020-09-17 08:06:22 0.5%
Monomythic Centennial
Reach level 100 in Hardcore Mode.
2020-09-17 07:39:30 1.0%
Immortal Celestial Conqueror
Complete Forgotten Gods on Ultimate Difficulty in Hardcore Mode.
2020-08-03 15:16:33 0.5%
Mass Extermination
Rid Cairn of 200000 Monsters.
2020-08-02 11:13:08 1.6%
Immortal Savior of Malmouth
Complete the Ashes of Malmouth on Ultimate Difficulty, Hardcore Mode.
2020-07-29 08:28:28 0.6%
Celestial Guidance
Activate 25 Celestial Blessings.
2020-07-15 17:53:14 1.4%
Defense Overload
Construct 50 Defenses.
2020-07-15 16:48:16 0.7%
Master Crafter
Craft 1000 items.
2020-07-01 16:31:57 2.0%
Immortal Wild Tamer
Slay Gargabol, Heart of the Wild in the Ancient Grove on Hardcore Mode.
2020-06-26 07:10:47 1.0%
The Order's Champion
Slay Archon Barthollem in the name of the Order of Death's Vigil on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-06-21 06:53:35 3.1%
I Was Not Expecting You, Human
Slay Warden Krieg on Veteran Mode before reaching level 11.
2020-05-20 19:12:21 1.4%
Immortal Savior
Complete the Game on Ultimate Difficulty in Hardcore Mode.
2020-05-20 17:52:10 0.8%
Lord of the Crucible
Complete the Crucible through Wave 150 on Gladiator Difficulty.
2020-05-14 19:18:25 2.2%
Unstoppable Lord of the Crucible
Complete the Crucible through Wave 150 on Gladiator Difficulty with the 6th Spawn Point active.
2020-05-14 19:18:25 1.0%
Top Score
Earn a Crucible score of at least 10000000.
2020-05-14 19:04:13 2.1%
Climbing the Ladder
Earn a Crucible score of at least 5000000.
2020-05-14 18:49:44 3.1%
Celestial Intervention
Activate all 4 Celestial Blessings in a single Crucible.
2020-05-14 18:06:59 2.1%
Shattered Vanquisher
Conquer the 25th Shard of the Shattered Realm on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-14 17:51:40 3.3%
Slayer of Myths
Slay Kra'vall, Ancient of the Waters on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-14 12:32:11
4.0%
Immortal Legend
Reach level 85 in Hardcore Mode.
2020-05-09 13:47:26 1.3%
Shattered Pathfinder
Conquer the 15th Shard of the Shattered Realm on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-09 13:34:44 3.6%
The Seven Magi
Slay all seven of the Korvan Magi in the Tomb of the Heretic.
2020-05-09 12:58:13 1.0%
Scion No More
Slay Kaisan, the Eldritch Scion.
2020-05-09 12:42:14 1.7%
Nemesis of the Scion
Slay Kaisan, the Eldritch Scion on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-09 12:42:14 1.5%
A Light in the Dark
Slay Grand Magus Morgoneth in the Tomb of the Heretic on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-03 08:17:14 2.3%
Celestial Conqueror
Complete Forgotten Gods on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-03 07:46:26 3.9%
Forever Forgotten
Slay Korvaak, the Eldritch Sun in the Throne of the Three on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-03 07:44:26
4.0%
The Bastion Conquered
Slay Shar'Zul, Harbinger of Chaos in the Bastion of Chaos on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-03 07:11:49 4.0%
Taming the Untamed
Slay Gargabol, Heart of the Wild in the Ancient Grove on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-03 06:48:38 3.6%
Juggernaut
Charge through 15 foes in a row using a Rush-type skill (ex. Vire's Might).
2020-05-02 15:57:20 3.0%
Immortal Conqueror of Chaos
Slay Shar'Zul, Harbinger of Chaos in the Bastion of Chaos in Hardcore Mode.
2020-05-02 14:36:06 1.2%
Immortal Vanquisher of Valbury
Slay Overlord Van Aldritch in Port Valbury in Hardcore Mode.
2020-05-02 14:13:24 1.0%
Celestial Touch
Activate a Celestial Blessing.
2020-05-02 11:51:45 4.8%
Friendly Brawl
Beat some sense into an old friend.
2020-05-02 11:04:56
1.9%
I'm My Own Master
Settle the score with the Aetherial that possessed you on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-02 09:29:00
2.5%
Port Valbury Avenged
Slay Overlord Van Aldritch in Port Valbury on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-05-02 08:58:24 3.4%
Conqueror of the Crucible
Complete the Crucible through Wave 150 on Challenger Difficulty.
2020-04-13 21:53:56 3.0%
Braving the Shattered Realm
Conquer the 5th Shard of the Shattered Realm on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-13 13:11:27 4.3%
Immortal Executioner
Slay Alkamos, Lord Executioner in the Steps of Torment on Hardcore Mode.
2020-04-13 10:59:23 1.6%
Pet Hoarder
Summon 18 pets at the same time.
2020-04-13 10:42:38 4.6%
Savior of Malmouth
Complete the Ashes of Malmouth on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-13 07:52:25 4.7%
Revenge For The Fallen
Slay Theodin Marcell, the Shaper of Flesh in the Sanctum of Flesh on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-13 07:50:46
4.7%
Remember Me?
Slay Fleshshaper Krieg in the Fleshworks on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-13 07:42:51
4.6%
Gate Crasher
Slay Bollag, Keeper of the Gates at the Malmouth Bridge on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-13 07:14:08 5.0%
Mountain Slayer
Slay Galakros, the Mountain in the Malmouth Sewers on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-13 07:01:54
4.1%
An End to the Darkness
Slay Ekket'Zul, Progenitor of Darkness at the Void's Edge on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-12 21:18:15 5.3%
Embrace New Foes
Choose to be hostile with the people of Barrowholm.
2020-04-12 21:06:24 4.3%
No Exceptions
Slay Anasteria.
2020-04-12 21:05:28
8.1%
Exalted Champion
Become Revered with 12 Factions.
2020-04-12 21:03:01 2.6%
The Jewel in the Mud
Reach Revered reputation with Barrowholm.
2020-04-12 20:58:21 4.8%
Ravaged
Defeat one of the manifestations of Ravager, the Wendigo Spirit.
2020-04-12 20:36:49 1.8%
The End of Torment
Slay Alkamos, Lord Executioner in the Steps of Torment on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-12 20:28:36 5.5%
Silencing the Prophet
Slay Father Kymon in the Tomb of the Eldritch Sun on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-12 16:42:50
4.0%
Weed Killer
Slay Sylvarria in the Undergrowth on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-12 16:33:18 4.6%
End of Messages
Silence Okaloth, the Messenger on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-12 09:20:20
3.5%
Champion of the Crucible
Complete the Crucible.
2020-04-12 09:07:48 5.2%
Servant of Empyrion
Reach Revered reputation with Kymon's Chosen.
2020-04-12 07:17:02 6.2%
Korvan Champion
Complete Forgotten Gods on Elite Difficulty.
2020-04-12 06:00:23 5.3%
The Ancient of Ugdenbog
Slay Kra'vall, Ancient of the Waters.
2020-04-10 14:19:34
13.1%
Not Afraid of a Little Fire
Slay the Herald of Flame in the Conflagration on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-10 14:19:34 6.4%
Celestial Bane
Defeat the Avatar of Mogdrogen.
2020-04-10 12:17:39 2.5%
Savior of Cairn
Complete the Game on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-04-10 09:46:18 6.8%
Centennial Legend
Reach level 100.
2020-04-10 09:05:34 8.2%
Infinite Gaze
Reach Revered reputation with the Cult of Dreeg.
2020-03-18 17:18:59 4.5%
Sovereign of the Skies
Slay Azaleon, the Gryphon Sovereign at the Sunward Spire on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-18 17:04:49 3.9%
Tracker of Hounds
Slay Grimmaw, the Packhound Alpha in the Basalt Crags on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-17 10:26:43 3.6%
Nemesis More Like MEHmesis
Slay Ten Nemesis monsters on Elite or Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-16 13:05:09 5.6%
Shattered Conqueror
Conquer the 25th Shard of the Shattered Realm.
2020-03-15 10:48:40 4.4%
Korvan Slayer
Eradicate 2500 Heroic Monsters (marked by a Star).
2020-03-15 10:48:40 4.2%
Shattered Explorer
Conquer the 15th Shard of the Shattered Realm.
2020-03-14 00:52:37 5.6%
Feast of Souls
Absorb 300 Shattered Souls in the Shattered Realm.
2020-03-14 00:43:35 8.2%
Souls Supreme
Absorb 8 stacks of Essence of the Shattered Realm in the Shattered Realm.
2020-03-14 00:31:10 6.1%
Enter the Shattered Realm
Conquer the 5th Shard of the Shattered Realm.
2020-03-14 00:06:56 9.3%
Shattered Bargain
Gain the effects of one of the Shattered Realm's shrines.
2020-03-14 00:04:43 9.6%
Soul Diet
Absorb 50 Shattered Souls in the Shattered Realm.
2020-03-13 23:51:49 12.4%
Bargain Help
Slay 5 Associates of Riggs in a single journey.
2020-03-11 10:53:58 0.5%
Settled Debt
Settle your debt with Riggs.
2020-03-11 10:33:49 4.0%
Banish the Night
Slay Grand Magus Morgoneth in the Tomb of the Heretic.
2020-03-11 10:29:02 4.3%
Hungering Darkness
Survive the Hungering Darkness in the Tomb of the Heretic.
2020-03-11 10:26:42 3.5%
Grounding the Herald
Slay the Herald of Destruction in the Immolation on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-10 13:12:47 4.9%
The Chosen of Kymon
Slay Malkadarr in the name of Kymon's Chosen on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-10 09:35:23 2.7%
Shattering the Blade of Ch'thon
Slay Salazar, Blade of Ch'thon in the Depraved Sanctuary on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-09 22:58:47 6.5%
You've Got Guts
Slay Gutworm in Smuggler's Basin on Ultimate Difficulty
2020-03-09 22:41:40 5.8%
Trial of Corruption
Endure the Trial of Corruption in the Ancient Grove.
2020-03-09 18:54:34 8.3%
A Select Future
Deal with the Mind Reaper.
2020-03-09 18:14:29 4.9%
Oh, the Web We Weave
Reach Revered reputation with the Cult of Bysmiel.
2020-03-09 17:25:29 4.7%
Revered Champion
Become Revered with 9 Factions.
2020-03-09 17:25:28 4.9%
Jurassic Hunt
Slay the Korvan Titanovore in the Korvan Sands on Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-09 17:11:36 4.4%
Unequaled Slayer
Eradicate 2000 Heroic Monsters (marked by a Star).
2020-03-09 15:06:01 5.4%
Ultimate Sacrifice
Reach Revered reputation with the Cult of Solael.
2020-03-09 09:18:10 4.6%
Unstoppable
Slay Six Nemesis monsters on Elite or Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-06 17:37:05 6.9%
Expert Crafter
Craft 100 items.
2020-03-06 17:06:13 10.9%
Nemesis
Slay a Nemesis monster on Elite or Ultimate Difficulty.
2020-03-06 16:02:51 8.7%
Hero of the People
Reach Revered reputation with the Malmouth Resistance.
2020-03-05 12:24:20 6.5%
Champion of Malmouth
Complete the Ashes of Malmouth on Elite Difficulty.
2020-03-05 12:24:18 6.6%
Korvan Devotion
Restore 60 Devotion Shrines.
2020-03-05 12:03:59 7.7%
Legend
Reach level 85.
2020-03-05 11:14:05 11.8%
Paragon of Cairn
Reach Revered reputation with 6 Factions.
2020-03-05 10:43:25 7.9%
Ugdenbog Rituals
Reach Revered reputation with the Coven of Ugdenbog.
2020-03-05 08:57:18 8.1%
Byscilla's Schemes
Bind the Spawn of Ateph to Byscilla's will.
2020-03-03 16:56:46 6.7%
Ashen Devotion
Restore 55 Devotion Shrines.
2020-03-03 15:46:04 9.0%
Cleansing the Immolation
Slay the Herald of Destruction in the Immolation.
2020-03-02 17:40:53 9.4%
It's Over 900000!
Earn a Crucible score of at least 900000.
2020-03-02 14:24:43 6.8%
Champion of Cairn
Complete the Game on Elite Difficulty.
2020-03-02 11:57:30 11.0%
Korvan Explorer
Open 30 One-Shot Chests.
2020-03-02 11:56:31 8.1%
True Devotion
Restore 50 Devotion Shrines.
2020-03-02 10:55:21 10.4%
No Strings on Me
Settle the score with the Aetherial that possessed you.
2020-03-02 09:34:22
4.0%
An Ocean of Blood
Rid Cairn of 100,000 Monsters.
2020-03-02 09:28:23 5.9%
Rahn's Secrets
Discover the secrets of Rahn.
2020-03-02 09:10:36 1.3%
A Mad Stash
Raid Ivonda's Hidden Stash.
2020-02-29 23:21:14
2.3%
The Wild Tamed
Slay Gargabol, Heart of the Wild in the Ancient Grove.
2020-02-29 23:08:52 10.2%
Killing the Messenger
Silence Okaloth, the Messenger.
2020-02-29 22:54:05
9.8%
So Others May Grow
Slay Sylvarria in the Undergrowth.
2020-02-28 23:20:12 15.0%
It's You Again!
Slay Fleshshaper Krieg in the Fleshworks.
2020-02-26 09:59:56
13.6%
Defender of Malmouth
Complete the Ashes of Malmouth.
2020-02-26 09:58:01 14.0%
The Scourge of Malmouth
Slay Theodin Marcell, the Shaper of Flesh in the Sanctum of Flesh.
2020-02-26 09:53:32
14.1%
For Malmouth
Retake the Malmouth Resistance Base in the Steelcap District.
2020-02-26 08:37:17 14.8%
Knock Knock
Slay Bollag, Keeper of the Gates at the Malmouth Bridge.
2020-02-26 08:32:24 15.0%
Crush the Mountain
Slay Galakros, the Mountain in the Malmouth Sewers.
2020-02-26 08:32:24
13.3%
It's Me, Your Friend
Convince an old friend that you are on his side.
2020-02-25 08:28:28
15.8%
A Stab in the Dark
Slay Ekket'Zul, Progenitor of Darkness at the Void's Edge.
2020-02-25 08:26:36 15.9%
Into the Void
Activate the Altar of Rattosh.
2020-02-25 08:15:58 16.0%
Embrace New Friendships
Choose to remain friendly with the people of Barrowholm.
2020-02-25 07:41:53 15.9%
Korvan Defender
Complete Forgotten Gods.
2020-02-25 00:33:18 10.8%
Godslayer
Slay Korvaak, the Eldritch Sun in the Throne of the Three.
2020-02-25 00:30:18
10.9%
Betrayer of Humanity
Slay Father Kymon in the Tomb of the Eldritch Sun.
2020-02-25 00:18:21
11.0%
The Master of Necromancy
Learn Uroboruuk's Fate.
2020-02-25 00:04:57
11.2%
A Heart for Solael
Offer the Heart of Onarix to Solael.
2020-02-25 00:00:20 6.8%
The Gryphon Sovereign
Slay Azaleon, the Gryphon Sovereign at the Sunward Spire.
2020-02-24 23:46:49 10.8%
Crag Hunter
Slay Grimmaw, the Packhound Alpha in the Basalt Crags.
2020-02-24 23:24:29 10.5%
To the Explorer Go the Spoils
Open 20 One-Shot Chests.
2020-02-24 23:20:21 15.0%
Exceptional Explorer
Open 25 One-Shot Chests.
2020-02-24 23:20:21 11.9%
Korvan Rex
Slay the Korvan Titanovore in the Korvan Sands.
2020-02-24 22:37:57 12.7%
Pledging Loyalty
Side with one of the Witch God Cults.
2020-02-24 22:14:30 18.4%
Follower of Uroboruuk
Reach Revered reputation with the Order of Death's Vigil.
2020-02-24 22:01:59 6.4%
The Fight Continues
Clear the Aetherial Barrier north of Burrwitch.
2020-02-21 10:37:25 19.0%
Korvan Loremaster
Collect 85 Lore Notes.
2020-02-21 10:33:45 15.0%
Faraway Lands
Enter the Emissary's portal to the land of the Korvan people.
2020-02-21 10:33:32 20.6%
Defender of Cairn
Complete the Game.
2020-02-21 10:28:36 27.7%
The Bane of Cairn.
Slay the Loghorrean, Voice of Ch'thon.
2020-02-21 10:27:12
28.1%
Shar'Zul Extinguished
Slay Shar'Zul, Harbinger of Chaos in the Bastion of Chaos.
2020-02-21 10:27:12 12.7%
The Fields of Despair
Survive the Fields of Despair.
2020-02-20 17:58:54
14.8%
Legendary Slayer
Eradicate 1000 Heroic Monsters (marked by a Star).
2020-02-20 17:56:06 9.5%
Loremaster
Collect 70 Lore Notes.
2020-02-20 17:05:47 19.7%
Blood for Blood
Slay Karroz, Sigil of Ch'thon.
2020-02-20 16:56:15 32.1%
The Death Room
Survive the Chamber of Souls.
2019-12-16 23:24:06
17.8%
Mythic Power
Craft a Mythical Relic.
2019-12-16 21:24:43 8.2%
Defensive Stance
Construct a Defensive Structure.
2019-12-14 15:09:17 9.0%
A Wake of Carnage
Rid Cairn of 50,000 Monsters.
2019-12-13 19:58:19 12.5%
Transcendent Power
Craft a Transcendent Relic.
2019-12-13 19:29:12 13.8%
Friends in the Apocalypse
Reach Revered reputation with any Faction.
2019-12-12 23:23:49 14.0%
The Overlord Vanquished
Slay Overlord Van Aldritch in Port Valbury.
2019-12-11 21:17:52 10.2%
The Flames of Valbury
Survive the Flames of Valbury.
2019-12-11 20:20:24 7.9%
The Executioner Executed
Slay Alkamos, Lord Executioner in the Steps of Torment.
2019-12-11 19:41:34 21.9%
Hidden Wealth
Find the buried treasure in the farmlands near Homestead.
2019-12-11 18:32:02 18.5%
In the Depths, He Lived Forgotten
Slay Gollus, the Deepdweller.
2019-12-10 22:09:42
22.8%
Cleansing the Conflagration
Slay the Herald of Flame in the Conflagration.
2019-12-05 22:51:33 30.9%
Cronley's Secret
Uncover Darius Cronley's Secret.
2019-12-01 18:03:06 34.1%
An Old Threat
Slay Darius Cronley.
2019-12-01 18:02:24 45.3%
Difficult Decisions
Resolve the situation in New Harbor without resorting to violence.
2019-12-01 11:02:15
35.4%
The End to Depravity
Slay Salazar, Blade of Ch'thon in the Depraved Sanctuary.
2019-12-01 10:58:12 32.2%
Seeking the Stars
Restore 10 Devotion Shrines.
2019-11-30 23:02:27 43.0%
Hidden in the Flooded Passage
Discover what is concealed behind the collapsed rocks in the Flooded Passage.
2019-11-29 22:17:23 23.7%
Note Collector
Collect 20 Lore Notes
2019-11-29 20:54:34 47.5%
Champion
Reach level 35.
2019-11-29 20:54:34 38.9%
Relics from the Past
Craft a Relic.
2019-11-29 20:54:34 38.9%
Heroic Slayer
Eradicate 100 Heroic Monsters (marked by a Star).
2019-11-29 20:54:34 32.8%
Lorekeeper
Collect 50 Lore Notes
2019-11-29 20:54:34 31.4%
Apprentice Crafter
Craft 10 items.
2019-11-29 20:54:34 28.7%
Junior Explorer
Open 10 One-Shot Chests.
2019-11-29 20:54:34 27.7%
Hero
Reach level 50.
2019-11-29 20:54:34 27.3%
Cleansing the World
Rid Cairn of 25,000 Monsters.
2019-11-29 20:54:34 23.3%
No Soup for You
Rescue Ulgrim in the Burrwitch Outskirts.
2019-11-29 20:41:48 47.8%
Gutting Gutworm
Slay Gutworm in Smuggler's Basin.
2019-11-29 20:39:35 33.6%
Delivering Justice
Slay Warden Krieg in the Hidden Laboratory.
2019-11-29 20:13:48 51.0%
Monster Slayer
Eradicate 25 Heroic Monsters (marked by a Star).
2019-11-29 19:58:02 48.8%
Tinkering is Her Speciality
Rescue Darlet in Burrwitch.
2019-11-28 18:36:00 52.5%
Securing Burrwitch
Secure the Burrwitch Riftgate in Veteran Mode.
2019-11-27 19:21:50 32.0%
By the Malleum Menhir
Enlist the help of a Blacksmith.
2019-11-27 19:02:35 51.4%
Let Me Gather My Notes
Collect 5 Lore Notes
2019-11-27 18:21:04 62.0%
Survivor
Reach level 10.
2019-11-26 20:18:50 65.7%
Completion Playtime
Including hidden & invalid profiles